It's good that everyone is not like me
Not surprisingly, Heavenletters™ and Godwriting™ are my main interests now. I can go further by saying that they are my only spiritual interests. It’s very rare for me to even look at other spiritual writing. Almost without exception, I don’t relate to other spiritual writing any more. My eyes kind of glaze over when I see words like E.T. or predictions for the year 2012. You would think that writings about them were written in foreign languages.
This was not always true for me. Not at all. But since Godwriting, this is true for me.
I generally have a low-tolerance for people who say: "That's how I am." And now here I am saying it.
Part of me wants to apologize for being solely devoted to Heavenletters, for being what could be called a die-hard fundamentalist Godwriter! And, yet, at the same time, how can I apologize for one-pointedness that I have no say over? I don't think I have a choice in this. I didn’t ask to be away from everything else in the spiritual word. It strikes me that it must be that I am supposed to be one-pointed and not be distracted, and somehow that has been made easy for me.
With all that being said, I am very glad that those with other strong spiritual interests are not like me. Thankfully, there are others with their own devoted spiritual interests who are open to reading Heavenletters and praising and supporting them.
Here are two recent examples:
The first concerns Russ Michael who reprints a Heavenletter every single day in his newsletter Age-reversal@aon.at. That he loves Heavenletters is no surprise, but this morning Russ really surprised me. He doesn't usually preface Heavenletters, but he did today. This is what he said:
Study the Heavenletters as they really do teach like no other teaching I have encountered. I have said again and again, when our E.T. sisters and brothers arrive, they will be teaching each and all of us at an individual level, in the same way that those of us are privileged--to read the HEAVENLETTERS--are being taught daily now!
You can imagine how astonishing this is to me! Can this be so? Does this make me an E.T.!!!!!
Then yesterday someone reminded me that Richard Presser included two Heavenletters in his popular ebook The Coming Golden Age and How to Prepare for It. www.thecominggoldenage.com
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Richard's work is far different from Heavenletters, yet our goals are very much alike. Richard speaks of Connecting Hearts of Humanity, and Heaven speaks of reaching every soul on earth to reawaken our connection to God… Aren't our goals the same?
Richard and I also share that it was about fifteen years ago that our lives took on an entirely new direction.
It touches me very much that Richard included two Heavenletters in his ebook. The Heavenletters are:
Heaven #2496 Gaining the Boundless http://www.heavenletters.org/gaining-the-boundless.html
Heaven #2507 In the Guise of Human Being http://www.heavenletters.org/in-the-guise-of-human-being.html
I am very grateful to these two gentlemen for their openness, and you may be sure I am aiming to embrace more.
Comments
Gloria, I cannot agree with you when you say you have no choice in being single-minded about Heavenletters and Godwriting. I think it would be more accurate to say that you choose not to relate to any other spiritual writings since you have begun Godwriting. I believe a choice can be so firm, so solid and feel so right that it seems like you are being compelled and have no other option.
I think a single focus of effort has good aspects and not so good aspects. In my experience, a single-minded focus makes life easier when important projects are being worked on. I think it is also true that our best guidance is provided directly to us through our heart and it behooves us to be single-minded in listening to this guidance.
But to be a “die-hard fundamentalist” also has its risks. The biggest risk, it seems to me, is that a “fundamentalist” can begin to communicate to others, overtly or subtly, that his is either the best or the only way to do spiritual work. This can shut him off from receiving help that could be quite beneficial to his goals and it could also inhibit the spread of a very important message that would benefit others
It is wonderful, Gloria, that you see the value and are open to Russ Michael and Richard Presser’s work. In this spirit, I would encourage you to be more tolerant of comments concerning other spiritual teachings that appear on the Heavenletters forums.
With love and gratitude for your excellent work…….Chuck
Beloved Chuck, it's like this. If I were a heart specialist, I would focus on the heart. If I were an orthopedist, I would focus on bones. No one says that the heart or bones are better than the other. Does a person choose what he likes? I'm not so sure.
There are magazines that are about high fashion. That's what they are about. There are other magazines that are about teen fashion. It is no insult to high fashion or teen fashion that one magazine isn't about what another one is.
This is a decision I made that the Heavenletter forum is for Heavenletters and Heavenreaders. There are so many other sites to go to that are allopathic. Whatever people want, that's what they should have.
The Heaven forum which I believe you are referring to has a focus on Heavenletters. I am a specialist. No one says anyone has to love Heavenletters or read them. What can a person do but follow his or her heart? They don't have to follow mine.
The Heaven forum is like my playground. Or my baby. I raise my baby as best I know how. I am going to raise my baby as I see fit. Others can raise their babies as they see fit and make their websites what they want.
Now as for my once being an avid reader of spirituality, that's where I was. Without exaggeration, I read ten to twelve books a week. That's what I wanted to do. Now I don't want to. I'm somewhere else.
Making a decision about the forum is a decision.
But when it comes to what I'm drawn to read, I'm drawn to it or I'm not. I don't think it's a decision I make, but if it is, it's mine to make.
When I start to read something spiritual that someone sends to me, with a rare exception, I can't read it. It doesn't keep my attention. This is nothing against what was written. It just isn't for me at this time of my life. There is no reason on Earth why I have to read it or love it! Some people don't want to read Heavenletters. That is also their privilege. It doesn't make them better or worse. At this time, it's their cup of tea, or it's not. It speaks to their heart, or it doesn't. What's wrong with that?
There is another factor as well. I like to receive love and wisdom directly from God in Heavenletters. I don't weigh or judge what God says. I love everything He says, and I accept it. I don't want to compare others' work to Heavenletters up or down, nor do I want to be influenced by others' work.
What I am really really open to, beloved Chuck, are the two people, Russ Michael and Richard Presser. They are beautiful souls.
I met Russ when I was in Germany a few years ago. He came to the Godwriting workshop, and he was a star. As for Richard, we haven't yet met, but our hearts have.
Dear Gloria. Yes I read Russ Michaels newsletter and there I saw first Heaven Letter and I wanted more of it so I subscribed a few years ago. I wanted the heaven letters strait and new not a week or days old. Yes they speak to me, very much. Others some of it and what does not interrest me I let slip what ever speaks to me Fine Like heaven Letters what does not speak to me I skip. Others are interrested in what ever I skip, Fine, each has a choise. I have found that lately al the spiritual raeding is saying the same thing. Heaven Letters says it so simple, I have always been simple so I like things simple. LOVE to you ALL Jack
Dear Chuck, if you fall in love with someone, deeply, madly, is that a choice you make to not be intimate with anyone else quite the way you are with this person? Is it a choice "so firm, so solid and [feeling] so right that it seems like you are being compelled and have no other option"? Is it fundamentalism in the usual sense of only one thing/view/person being right and all others wrong? It is not.
The analogy of being in love is a fitting one as far as I am concerned. Being in love will never make you "communicate to others, overtly or subtly, that [t]his is either the best or the only way to do" relationship. If I got the impression that at heavenletters.org someone started claiming that this is "either the best or the only way to do spiritual work", I would object vehemently. The term "fundamentalist", I believe, was introduced somewhat airily here. Fundamentalism involves parochialism and literal-mindedness, and that is not what we are talking about.
The next sentence, beginning with "This can shut him off …", is not clear to me since I don't know what the "very important message" is the spread of which could be inhibited. But the feeling I get is that this sentence is not very far from an accusation of withholding from the world something which could nourish it.
Now, having said this, I will admit that I'm not altogether sure why I'm happy that heavenletters.org offers no space for "interspiritual discussion". What I'm quite sure of, however, is that it's not intolerance.
Rereading what I have written here, it sounds a little gruff to me. But gruff is really the last thing I want to be towards someone as likeable and considerate as you are, Chuck. It's only that I found it a little difficult to express what I wanted to convey in English.
I believe it was George Bernard Shaw who said: “The greatest problem in communication is the illusion that it has been accomplished.”
I think George was referring to only the first step taken in human communication, though. High quality communication, of the kind surrounding Heavenletters, is a give and take. We express our opinions and those we express them to mirror back to us what they understand our meaning to be. If what we attempted to get across was not quite perceived as we intended, I think we then have a responsibility to clarify.
First, let me clarify what I am not trying to say. I have nothing but the deepest respect and appreciation for you, Gloria, the Heavenletters team and the many fantastic contributors to these blogs and forums. I find the motivation of all involved to be loving, sincere and helpful.
Jochen, your comments did sound a little gruff, but that is quite alright; you speak from your heart and to me that “ungruffs” what you say. Perhaps my comments also struck Gloria as a little gruff, too.
I see the entirety of what is being communicated by the Heavenletters as the “very important message” who’s spread can be inadvertently inhibited. To interpret what I am saying as accusing anyone of anything purposely detrimental is to misinterpret my intended meaning.
Jochen, it is your phrase “interspiritual discussion” that gets to the core of what I am trying to say. I am suggesting a careful reconsideration of the policy to discourage the discussion of other spiritual teachings on the forums. Certainly people should not be allowed to proselytize, but I believe the discussion of other beliefs or teachings as they relate to the messages of Heavenletters is very important.
Of course, Gloria, the Heavenletters are your ”baby” and I respect that feeling. How you make your decisions is totally your call. I have raised children and I look back on several situations where I used poor judgment even though my actions were purely loving in intent. If, back then, someone would have observed these errors and pointed them out to me in a way I could have accepted, I now would be very grateful that they had.
Love…..Chuck
Heavenletters are Heavenletters
To say anymore might to take away from that.
In Love and Light
Beloved Chuck,
We are two sincere people wanting to understand what the other means. I well know we both have Heaven's best interests at heart.
I have two questions I would like to ask you in the hopes that I will get closer to understanding what you are saying:
1. Is there something important to you that the guideline of keeping the forum Heavenletters has prevented you from expressing?
2. Is it that you object to the guideline as a tactical error? Are you meaning to say that you believe that Heaven will have more readers if we made the forum wide open? Is that why you think that in years to come I might regret not opening the forum up to discussion of all spiritual avenues?
I like that Heavenletters are light weight and agile. I appreciate that when I go to the Heavenletters website I find Heavenletters and do not have to wade through anything else. Also it would strike me as odd to put anything else next to what we accept as God's words. And what Steve said.
Thanks, Steve and Santhan, for making it so simple and palpable ("wade through"). Yes, Santhan, this is the first thing ever that I "accept as God's words". I do not want this wonderful and effortless concentration broken. On a sunny day, I don't need all kinds of weathers to augment each other or to add up to the ultimate weather.
Dear Gloria,
I am sorry that this exchange has consumed so much of your time, which I know is at a premium right now.
In answer to your questions, yes, there is something important to me that the administration of the current guidelines is preventing. I think they are too limiting. How many Heavenletters advise us to say “yes” and to not judge? The spread and acceptance of the Heavenletters is important to me since I think they are a vital aid to our struggling world. I think, and of course this is just my opinion, that the forums would retain more members if the application of the current guidelines was relaxed at least somewhat.
Certainly instances of attack, disrespect and abuse need to be stopped when they occur, so complete openness is also not an option.
The flavor of the various posts, above, sounds like the commenters are happy with things as they stand. Please be assured I will do my best to follow the rules. Thanks for patience and all your efforts in addressing my concerns, Gloria. Love to all……..Chuck
Dear Chuck, we are both trying to understand.
No one questions your willingness!
So you have been feeling inhibited because of some of the guidelines. You may be surprised to hear that I don't like rules at all! I don't like to make them, and I don't like them made for me. Does anyone like them? I suppose there are some who do.
You see judgment involved here whereas I don't. There are many many other spiritual sites and people that I think the world of. I"m not judging any one of them. I think the Heavenletter forum is a place for Heavenletters and not a place to point people to all the marvelous things that are out there.
I made comparisons earlier, but the comparisons aren't making how I see it more meaningful to you. Like when I mentioned a heart specialist or an orthopedist. There are also doctors who practice general medicine. You wouldn't go to an orthopedist when you want a general exam. Some sites are like general practictioners. Heavenletters isn't one of those sites.
Heavenletters is Heavenletters. There is only one Heavenletter site in the world. I am not judging other sites who are open to everything. I just don't want to be such a site. The Heavenletter Spiritual Community Forum is specialized. People don't come here to find out about everything else that is going on. I like the way one of the people who commented said that he is happy he doesn't have to wade through a lot of stuff to get to what he wants. Simple.
I'll try one more comparison! Some couples want big elaborate weddings, and some want simple small weddings. Is a couple who wants a small wedding judging big weddings? They just don't want a big wedding. They want a small wedding. They don't object to anyone else having a big wedding. They simply want a small wedding. Do they have to want a big wedding? Why? Are they less because they want a small wedding? Is the couple wrong because they want a small wedding? Generalized spiritual website or specialized spiritual website, is one wrong and one right? What happened to preference?
Now to the other point that shows your caring about Heavenletters. You, like me, like most of us, like God, too, want Heavenletters to reach as many people as possible as quickly as possible.
From the very beginning, I said no to affiliates and to joint ventures with other spiritual authors etc., no matter how great they are or how much I admire them. We are asked often to become part of joint ventures along with great people. For me, the decision was made long ago to say no to all joint ventures. Would they give us more exposure? I believe they would.
But becoming a part of a joint venture means that I send out special mailings to Heavenreaders telling them to get in on this special book or product offer. I'm not going to do that. And I'm not going to say yes to one and no to another. I don't have time or energy to spend on that. My total focus is Heavenletters. Do I say everyone has to do it the way I do? Not at all.
It doesn't feel right to me, Chuck, to do joint ventures when it comes to Heavenletters. I am not judging people who do. It simply doesn't feel right to me in connection with Heavenletters and the intent of Heavenletters. I believe that Heavenletters will reach everywhere better when I don't do what doesn't feel right to my heart.
[As an aside, Justin and Aaron http://love-olution.com/ who were featured in the last Heaven News invited Heavenletters to be represented on a joint venture CD they are making with nine other spiritual people, some very well known, like Heaven's special friend Bernie Siegel. When I told Justin and Aaron that we just don't do joint ventures -- we just won't send special mailings out to Heavenreaders etc., they said:
"Hey, we want to interview you anyway and get you on our CD." That made all the difference in the world to my feeling level. Their response changed the whole equation. You can imagine how good I feel about Justin and Aaron.]
If I had a book of fiction out, I would joint venture all over the place. I would be the biggest joiner of joint ventures you ever saw! But not with Heavenletters.
Because something is a smart move or a good tactical move doesn't motivate me to do that with Heavenletters.
Chuck, friends don't have to come to any agreement or even understanding. It's all okay.
With love and blessings,
Gloria
At my wedding we were eleven...and still too many!
Gloria's one-pointed single-mindedness explained:
http://www.heavenletters.org/gods-thought-echoes-far.html
Emilia, your comment made me laugh so much. Every time I think of it, it does!
Beloved Bev, I love to hear you from you. For those who may not know. Beverly Herman is my true friend, and it was a sad day for me when she moved away from Fairfield. Bev is a remarkably loving giving person. Lauren and I always had so much fun with Bev. Besides that, Bev is someone you can always trust. I would trust Bev with anything. You could too.
Now that you have the picture, I want to tell you something. There is one person who posts on this blog, and her posts invariably go into a place where I have to approve them. Very rarely does anything go into this suspicious place, and when something does, it's an obvious spam. EXCEPT...
Bev, your posts always go into the suspicious place! You are one of the most trustworthy people in the world! And your posts go into the suspect place. The only other real person's post who has gone into that moderate place was Santhan's, and it was only once, and he too is one of the top trustworthy people in the world. This is ironic, isn't it?
Bev, I think the only cure is for you to post a lot!
It's the URLs, I suppose. The first time I made a post having a URL here, it only went into moderation and turned up later. The second time, and I remember distinctly that the link I used was for heavenletters.org, the whole post simply diasppeared for good. I never dared to insert a link again since then.
Aha!